What Real Torture Looks Like

To the dolts at Amnesty International and their defenders, here is a look at real torture:

In a recent raid on an al-Qaeda safe house in Iraq, U.S. military officials recovered an assortment of crude drawings depicting torture methods like “blowtorch to the skin” and “eye removal.” Along with the images, which you’ll find on the following pages, soldiers seized various torture implements, like meat cleavers, whips, and wire cutters. Photos of those items can be seen here. The images, which were just declassified by the Department of Defense, also include a picture of a ramshackle Baghdad safe house described as an “al-Qaeda torture chamber.” It was there, during an April 24 raid, that soldiers found a man suspended from the ceiling by a chain. According to the military, he had been abducted from his job and was being beaten daily by his captors. In a raid earlier this week, Coalition Forces freed five Iraqis who were found in a padlocked room in Karmah. The group, which included a boy, were reportedly beaten with chains, cables, and hoses. Photos showing injuries sustained by those captives can be found here. (12 pages)

Please spare me the crap about Abu Ghraib and Gitmo.  These guys make those places look like Club Med.  The injustices at Abu Ghraib have been righted and the people involved have been properly convicted of their crimes.  And at Gitmo, I would hardly call the U.S. giving Muslims prayer mats and Islamic-sensitive meals “torture.”  Moreover, we know that much of the information coming from Gitmo was fabricated.  To believe that the U.S. and its military turned into some hotbed of torture suddenly in 2001 is to believe in Santa Claus.

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Categories: Idiots, Islam, Military issues, The Global War on Islamofascism, The Iraq War

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  1. Well said E. There the little pretend world where Bush equals Hitler, Dick Cheney is a Darth Vader torturer and we’re all evil because we want to fight some terrorists and defeat those who advocate Islamic Jihad against the rest. Then there is reality and the real world.

    The nutjob ‘progressives’ dwell in one, and conservatives dwell in another.

  2. Are you really that naive’? Plenty of detainess have been killed during torture. There are pictures that have emerged with eyes gouged out. It is US policy. You should do some research before you make these statements about the US being so benign. I could easily find the documentation of Rumsfield’s statements on torture.

    Yes, when I post, I usually bring some sources with my posts, because, talk is cheap. I would assume that your assumptions of me are that I have no merit, however, I don’t make claims lightly. Mostly, I know certain sources of “knowledge” that are time and time again proven as bullshit, such as FOX, which obviously, along with other right-wing rattle, are shown to be mere ass-kissing, corporate, war-profiteering, shills.

    So, my bet is that although I do bring these sources, you won’t look at them, will you? You’ll continue to espouse the lies and ignore the evidence. Or will you?

    list to access many documents: http://action.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/011206

    Short video clip of a troop talking about what happens in those detainment camps, which I suppose you could argue is fake, but personally, I believed it:

  3. The clip from above has been taken down, as is the case with so many of the video clips thaqt are so damning of the US. Here is another, and I hope that it doesn’t get taken down, but:

  4. To my Conclub comrades, blubonnet is indeed a female. They like to know gender so they can actually say things like ‘he said, she said’. etc. Do you have your own blog Jennie?

  5. Nope, I don’t have my own blog. I do hope information is shared, so please do.

  6. Look Blu, I’m not saying that our detainees are treated to a walk in the park. In fact, many including myself would advocate limited methods of torture such as the water board in order to coerce confessions from known terrorists as to where their leaders are hiding. I’m just saying that the methods we use are not anything new nor are they just used by us. I suspect that we don’t resort to the barbarism that al-Qaeda uses in the link.

    There’s a reason that when Germany fell in WWII, Germans soldiers were much happier to have been captured by Americans than by Russians. The picture painted by the left is that of Americans that are blood thirsty and that they torture detainees when the mood stikes us. And what is sad is that they are quick to condemn the U.S. and turn a blind eye to every other nation in the world.

  7. Quick comparison. Al-Qaeda prisoners in Gitmo are alive with excellent medical care, three hots and a cot. Americans taken prisoner by Islamic Jihadists and Al-Qaeda allied groups are tortured, mutilated, executed and occasionally dumped into the Euphraites. The difference is striking.

  8. My view on this is simple. The Iranians, the Saudis, the Pakistanis are FAR worse than anything we have meted out at this point. But I am still ashamed at some of the things we have done in the GWOT, and to think my nation could ever be consoled by saying “well at least the Iranians are worse than us” is simply appalling.

  9. Well, according to CIA, or should I say former CIA, the shipping out detainees to other countries with those same kind of horrors, we abhor, in interrogation methodology, is what our country does now. Look it up if you doubt me.

    Another thing, one of the reasons that our military codes have not done such things in the past, is not only for the obvious reasons that we are supposed to be of a higher standard, and a supposed beacon of honor, etc., but also, it frees up the opposing forces to do the same thing if real Geneva Conventions were followed by us.

    It only makes it all the more egregious, when they don’t even know who is really innocent or guilty, they just torture.

    It is a sad moment in our history that our country feels that the Geneva Conventions are nothing to be bothered with.

    It’s completely unacceptable that they or us could sink to such a hideous lows.

  10. This is a list of violations by international law. This site, you might want to wander around on. I’m sure you’ll respect the individuals there, and you will find it interesting by clicking your way around.

    http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/laws_and_treaties_violated_by_pr.htm

  11. I meant to say in previous post, which I started to say, and didn’t finish properly, is that one of the reasons that our military code previously prohibited torture, is not only the indecency of it, but also the vulnerability of our troops thereafter.

    Here is another short clip:

  12. Blu,

    I find it ironic that blue points to a website that contains documents investigating torture. If it was an accepted practice to scoop out eyes and subject prisoners to anything more than stress interrogations we would not be investigating those incidents as crimes.

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