Ask, Confront & Defend

The repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is a DISGRACE that cannot stand!

The Left hoped that by defining homosexuality as an orientation that cannot be changed, rather than a chosen behavior as has been recognized for millenia, they could exploit the goodwill of the civil rights struggle.  Civil rights, like feminism, is a positive philosophy when promulgated by persons of integrity with no hidden agendas.  However, those of us who were around in those times, or who study real history,  know there were many communists and America-haters therein marching with genuine people of good will.   It is not the conservatives with resume credits we hear from today, but Charlie Rangel and Jesse Jackson – those who exploit their past.  They are exploiters first, and not those persons of consistent character.

“Gay rights” has been difficult to fight against because most Americans have always been tolerant.  Most Americans weren’t out spraying black people with fire hoses or wearing sheets.  In fact, as I research my Southron genealogies, along with outrages I come across stories which run counter to the all-pervasive “rabid racists” myth.  The trouble with human nature, then as now, is that many believe what they wish, for good or ill, depending upon their choice – and not the truth.

“Being gay” in a heterosexual world is not the same as being black in a whites-dominated society.  One could easily find black communities that were indistinguishable from white communities in the 1950s.  But look at the Castro and West Hollywood – not the same as heterosexual communities.  There are ex-gays; there are no ex-blacks.  A black person can genuinely marry a white person and still be black.  A gay person cannot genuinely marry a straight person and still genuinely be gay.

What’s my background?  I grew up in California, and once admired Harvey Milk.  While I still admire Harvey (the Harvey of The Life and Times of Harvey Milk, not the revisionist versions), I now see where I went wrong in my thinking, and accept that martyed man’s achievements, both good and mistaken.  I wish I could answer Harvey’s argument in the Proposition 6 debates.  Proposition 6 was one of the 1970s-era California ballot initiatives which would have prevented openly-gay teachers from teaching in schools — how things have changed in 40 years!  (As Barack Obama proved, change is not always a good thing!)  Anita Bryant and Phyllis Schlafly were two who stood up against this; some of us are old enough to remember what happened to Anita Bryant as a result of her conservative stand.

Harvey is memorialized in The Life and Times as pointing out that he became gay even though he was raised in a militantly heterosexual world.  His conclusion was the lie that gay people are born gay and this cannot be changed.  I would answer today that we are all born sinful creatures.  The fact that we are born so does not mean God intends for us to choose this, let alone justify such contrary to history and mature reflection.  For people who struggle with this issue or who have friends and family who do, there are very good resources out there on the issue.

We see what is happening to this country, as people who try to live decently, or who are committed Christians, or who are patriotic Americans become objects of ridicule by the media.    By their fruits ye shall know them… I don’t seen the homosexual agendists out there promoting tolerance of Christians and the abstinent.  Rather, each and every one of them intend to divide – to call us the “haters”, not taking the log out of their own eye.  We need to remember America’s enemies – including the devil and his minions – would like to weaken and destroy this country.  Harvey – in real life – was the homosexual Ghandi or MLK Jr.  He was martyed for it and now he is exploited.  Instead, there are Rosie O’Donnell and her Leftist comrades (pun intended).  America is not stronger for “diversity” and satire.  She is stronger due to God-fearing, genuinely honest, mature, committed Americans of faith who live humbly and seriously, then, now, ALWAYS…

Even if I still believed in “equal rights” for homosexuals, I could not deny that elevating a social experiment ahead of our military is a good idea.  When one considers that society at large has not resolved the issue – I would suggest cannot – it is an assault on America and nothing less.  With all that is wrong with our government and  economy, a lame duck Congress are not the wisest captains of our course.  The agendists argue that blacks serving equally in the military was such a social experiment; but as I note above, it is not the same thing – and we all must say so before such is prosecuted as a hate crime.

The more we speak up about the Emperor’s New Clothes, i.e., the Left’s blatant pandering to a few of their well-off donors (no matter the effects on this country and our defenses), the more we may persuade others who still debate what is the right thing to do and believe.

This is why young people have been misled and are being used:  they are young.  They are ready to believe in “progressive” ideas, no matter history, human nature and the comprehension such requires for mature government.  Military leaders from Washington to Caesar have written about sexual openness in the military, and how such has no place therein.  We have evaded confronting the young with their ignorance since the 1960s.  We must step up and git ‘r done.  Even our Founders, who included many young idealists (i.e., Hamilton, Jay, Burr, the Adams brothers et al.), may have been young.  But they also had been schooled in Latin and the history of Rome, the philosophy of Locke and Hume, the Junto of Franklin and related improvement societies.  Reality TV, cell phones and iPods do not an informed electorate make.  To me, one of the greatest achievements of our Founders was the persuasion on the merits via the best-selling and discussed Federalist Papers.

With regard to military service, whatever happened to the plan of abstinence?  A mature Christian, of course, will not be having sex outside of marriage.  I argue this was a source of strength for this country, as THIS was the ideal for centuries when we thrived.  Even though most did not live as long, and death rates much higher, most postponed marriage and family a lot longer than today.  With homosexuals in our schools and our media promoting “equality” and “self-expression”, where is the tolerance and fairness for focusing one’s talents and energy on the mission at hand?

If the latter is not sufficient fulfillment, one has no business in a volunteer military.  Today’s American heroes are many in our military, who know this focus and its power.  Unfortunately, I personally know of agendists who signed up beginning in the 1960s with infiltration, exploitation and demoralization in mind, not patriotic defense.

Fighting for our country is not only about attending tea parties and studying the Constitution, positive enough steps.  It is about modeling commitment and maturity, and fighting the creeping corruption of those who would weaken us intellectually, socially, spiritually and morally.  Young people, do not go down the long road without knowing more about these issues and what you are choosing.  And we maturer types must fight the good fight more effectively if we are to save this country.

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12 replies

  1. That was a fine apologia. Nice work, Maeve, as it made for great reading today.

  2. This was the biggest bilge of gibberish i read in my life.

    “We see what is happening to this country, as people who try to live decently, or who are committed Christians, or who are patriotic Americans become objects of ridicule by the media. By their fruits ye shall them… I don’t seen the homosexual agendists out there promoting tolerance of Christians and the abstinent. Rather, each and every one of them intend to divide – to call us the “haters”, not taking the log out of their own eye.”

    Homophobes are rightly ridiculed by the media, just like all other bigots and hatemongers. Homophobia has nothing to do with patriotism or Americanism, bigotry is un-American. What intolerance of Christians are homosexuals not fighting? Are Christians forbidden from serving in the military? Are they denied marriage and adoption rights? They call you hater because you are a hater. The American Taliban has for years vilified gay people any way they could and are doing it to this day, they never repented or apologized. And now they are surprised why people think they are hatemongers.

    “Even if I still believed in “equal rights” for homosexuals, I could not deny that elevating a social experiment ahead of our military is a good idea. ”

    DADT was the bizarre military experiment, not its repeal. Allowing gay soldiers to serve openly strengthens our military, those that oppose gay soldiers are shooting our fighting men in the back.

    “This is why young people have been misled and are being used: they are young. They are ready to believe in “progressive” ideas, no matter history, human nature and the comprehension such requires for mature government. ”

    Young people understand everything perfectly well. They have not been warped by outdated and bigoted ideas, and the last thing they need is some old bigot spreading his diseased thinking to them. Homophobia is not supported by science, human nature, or any other rationality, it is a disgusting and irrational prejudice that young people have rightly questioned. Every moment another old bigot dies and is replaced by a younger, uncorrupted human being, thus making the world a better place.

    “With regard to military service, whatever happened to the plan of abstinence? A mature Christian, of course, will not be having sex outside of marriage. I argue this was a source of strength for this country, as THIS was the ideal for centuries when we thrived.”

    Abstinence until marriage is an outdated idea practiced by less than 1% of the population. If you think that the army is or ever was a bastion of sexual morality you are not living on this planet. If abstinence until marriage was a requirement for army duty, we would have no military and would be invaded by Canada tomorrow.

    “Young people, do not go down the long road without knowing more about these issues and what you are choosing. And we maturer types must fight the good fight more effectively if we are to save this country.”

    Young people need to teach old people that bigotry, intolerance, and homophobia are incompatible with being a conservative, an American, or a decent human being.

  3. “The Left hoped that by defining homosexuality as an orientation that cannot be changed, rather than a chosen behavior as has been recognized for millenia,”

    Can Sexual Orientation Be Changed?

    The official website of the American Psychiatric Association states that: “There is no published scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of ‘reparative therapy’ as a treatment to change one’s sexual orientation. A similar statement from the APA included the remarks that “research findings suggest that efforts to ‘repair’ homosexuals are nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accoutrements.” Further, in 1997, the APA passed a resolution by a large majority affirming homosexuality is not a disorder. In 1998, the American Psychiatric Association endorsed their position that: “The potential risks of ‘reparative therapy’ are great, including depression, anxiety, and self-destructive behavior, since therapist alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the patient” and that “the Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as ‘reparative’ or ‘conversion’ therapy which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation.”

    • There are no ‘ex-blacks’ but there are many thousands of ‘ex-gays’. That ought to tell you something about what can, and cannot, be changed. There are many who suffer from gender confusion and sexual identity issues just as there are those who suffer from a wide variety of compulsions and addictions. It doesn’t mean we should excuse every deviant or perverse behavior someone may indulge in. Just my humble two cents.

  4. “There are no ‘ex-blacks’ but there are many thousands of ‘ex-gays’.”

    I can think of at least one ex-black and that is Michael Jackson. He changed his skin color and features to white as much as he was capable of doing so. Why, did he do this? I believe so because of racial prejudice against blacks and the status gained for looking white. There are similar reasons ex-gays (or so they claim) go back into hiding in the closet regarding sexual orientation, because of homophobia and a disadvantaged life. And who in the world would want that for a life? Living in the closet is an option for many gays and that is just what they do to avoid the bigotry and intolerance against them.

    Do you give an organization such as the APA credence on their findings about sexual orientation and whether or not it can be changed? Their business is the business of human behavior and I consider them experts in their field.

    • Maureen, you gotta see ex-gay therapy for what it is, an attempt by religious fanatics to use pseudo science to rob human being of their free will.

      All legitimate medical or psychiatric associations reject ex-gay therapy as dangerous quackery. The ones pushing this are religious bigots who adopted the old Soviet trick of declaring people they hate to be mentally ill. In the Soviet Union political dissidents were routinely declared insane and put in mental asylums where they were forcefully drugged, tortured, and brain washed until they were “cured”. The religious right adopted this tactic and is using pseudo-psychiatry as a weapon against human minds.

      Can gay people be changed into straights? Conversion therapy ends in failure 99% of the time, the victims of this psychological abuse often hurt or kill themselves, those cured usually revert back to being gay after awhile. Of alleged success stories a majority are not cured of their same sex attraction, they just stop having sex altogether. A few claim true conversion and claim to truly be straight now, though they are routinely caught having gay affairs.

      Still even if its on very rare occasion effective, gay conversion therapy is immoral. You do not use medicine as a political weapon, and this kind of brainwashing is unethical and downright evil. If the Christian Right insists on using psychiatry in such a way, one day they may find themselves locked into padded cells and tortured with the techniques they perfected.

    • No, I don’t give the APA any credence. They are driven by ideology as much as by psychology. No secret there. I was a social sciences major (psychology, anthropology, sociology) but I don’t buy something just because someone tells me something. Besides history and current events, my main area of lifetime study has been sociology and the interactions of people in relation to larger structures such as family dynamics and sub-cultures. I used to help manage a jewelry store in a mall back in the day and we spent countless hours studying and speculating about what you could tell about people just by how they walked, talked, dressed, and interacted with those around them. Fascinating, and a great way to help many a boring hour pass by.

      I have met/know several people who have overcome their same sex attrations or have left the homosexual lifestyle behind. Similar to dealing with alcoholism, or addictions of many kinds. My father used to teach classes on gender confusion, same sex attractions, and sexual identity problems as well as ongoing counseling etc. for ex-inmates and others struggling with addictions (drugs, sex, pornography etc) and destructive behavioral problems of all kinds and has counseled hundreds on such issues for forty plus years.

      Personally I’ve known and talked to too many engaged in homosexual behavior to every ‘buy’ the “I was born that way and can’t help it excuse.” Many other emotional, mental, relationship, family dynamics, abandonment, abuse, bonding, and childhood issues involved to just be that by far.

    • Maureen;

      MJ was never ex-black. He would have liked to be, but he was, until the day he died, black. He was also a beloved musician (especially by his white fans, who loved him as a child, and who never let up as he grew up). MJ’s problem was that he was mentally ill, thanks in large part to having a domineering monster of a father who traumatized the guy so badly that he would act out on infantile behavior publicly. Ex-black? Not a chance. Pitiable? Most certainly.

  5. “It’s noteworthy that Jesus never said anything that we have a record of about homosexuality. What he actually did say involved a simplification of the 10 commandments by boiling it down to one supreme commandment: “I ask you to love and care for one another as I have loved you” So as a Christian myself (I also happen to be heterosexual), I unfortunately see that we have two camps: those who seek to understand how we can fulfill the intent and spirit of Jesus’ words and his commandment, and in the other camp we have those who simply use the Bible as a weapon against those who they perceive as enemies, often by citing obscure text from somewhere in the Old Testament.

    By being quick to reject any who are different from them yet accept differences in others reluctantly and only when forced to do so is akin to telling the Lord Jesus: “forget your silly commandment and caring for everyone, I want to use scripture to justify my hatred and discrimination against those who annoy me.”

    Is this some kind of 2nd Protestant Reformation that is being carried out in America? A “get back to our roots” movement – throw out all that Jesus stuff in the New Testament and re-focus on the angry fire-and-brimstone passages of the Old Testament. Lord…help us.” ~ anon

    Although, I didn’t write this, it makes perfect sense to me.

    • Excusing immorality is a problem as a Christian and cherry picking what may or may not make us ‘happy’ by damning all the rest of the Bible that we don’t agree with as ‘obscure’ is not really a true option. Jesus said things like ‘go and sin no more’ not ‘let’s go start a support group for your perversion’. Homosexuality is addressed throughout the Bible in both old and new testaments as well as the proper roles for males and females. From the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah for its homosexual immorality to the cursing of Noah’s son for looking upon his father in lust to Paul addressing it very clearly there can be no ambiguity for the Christian.

      Jude 7 indicates that Sodom and Gomorrah’s punishment was due to their sexual perversion. Their sin was not simply one of violence (rape) but of sexual immorality (homosexuality). As further evidence of the sinful nature of homosexuality, Leviticus 18:22, and 20:13 both describe homosexuality as “an abomination.”

      In Romans 1:26-27 Paul is very specific, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.”

      In 1 Corinthians 6:9, Paul wrote, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.” The Greek word from which the King James Bible gets the word “effeminate” is malakos, which literally means something soft to the touch, but is used as a negative metaphor to refer to a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man. The “abusers of themselves with mankind” are those men who engage in unnatural sexual relations with other men – homosexuals.

      Genesis 2:24-25 says, “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife” This verse was quoted by Jesus himself when speaking of marriage.

      The the intent and spirit of Jesus’ words and his commandment was for man to reject sin, and that includes all sexual sins (i.e. promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, prostitution, etc.) Excusing sin has consequences for the sinner as well as the person who excuses their actions. Just because we love people does not mean we have to excuse their actions. We are to love the sinner, but hate the sin. That is at the heart of Christianity.

      We’ll probably have to agree to disagree on this particular subject Maureen, but that’s ok. (:

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