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Russian & U.S.A. Special Ops Train Together on U.S. Soil in ‘Counter Terrorism’ Exercise

Something about this stinks. Two giant armies on American soil, using American weapons & technology and training to take down ‘terrorists’ together. And all in an age where our own president insists that U.S. citizens be arrested by military troops- in blatant disregard for our constitutional rights. In an era where U.S. citizens can be labeled ‘enemy combatants’ and detained indefinitely, in blatant disregard for our constitutional rights. And in an era where the Progressive movement seeks to consolidate the immense powers of world governments into cohesive units. Personally, I trust our president as far as I can throw these troops. Then again, perhaps this is all innocent..

(I found this article so outrageous, I didn’t quite believe it. Sadly, I have confirmed the article with Fox News & the Associated Press.)

Paul Joseph Watson,Infowars.com,Thursday, April 26, 2012

Russian airborne troops are set to train how to target terrorists in America as part of a joint anti-terror drill with the United States which will take place in Fort Carson, Colorado at the end of next month.

“Airborne troops from Russia and the United States would hold joint anti-terror drills in the U.S. state of Colorado between May 24 and 31,” reports the Xinhua news agency, citing Russian Defense Ministry Col. Alexander Kucherenko. The story was also reported by Russian news outlet RIA Novosti.

The exercises, which will mark the first time the respective country’s two airborne forces have held joint drills on U.S. territory, will revolve around the “reconnaissance of imaginary terrorists’ camp and a raid,” and will also involve evacuations of the troops by helicopter. read article at Infowars.com

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  1. I can’t tell you how many warning bells go off in my head, but they mainly fall under the rubric ‘convergence.’

  2. I don’t have much of an opinion on the joint troop operations but a couple of things strike me about this post. First, your link about U.S. citizens being charged as enemy combatants details a guy named Jose Padilla. Jose Padilla, was known in al-Qaeda circles as Abdullah al- Muhajir. He was convicted of plotting to detonate a dirty bomb and was rightly declared an enemy combatant by President Bush. You falsely claim he was detained “in blatant disregard for our constitutional rights (emphasis mine). Actually, my rights were fully protected as were yours (and even his) when this gangster was sentenced to prison in Federal court.

    Second, I would be very cautious of linking anything from Infowars and Alex Jones. His stuff is used by both the left wing nuts and right wing radicals (you) to cast apersions upon whatever president is being a bad guy. In the case of the left, Bush was evil and infowars was there to lend a link. In the case of you and the right wing nuts, Obama sits around night and day plotting ways to take rights from people and again, “here is a link from infowars to prove it.” Infowars is a conspriacist ‘9/11 was an inside job as was OKCity’ site and is best left as a playground for the children. When big people discuss geopolitics, they do so with the understanding that there is a tradeoff between absolute security and the erosion of certain rights.

    Personally, I am willing to endure constitutionally protected but “slippery slope” phone tapping if I call Europe or drones that survey the borders or cities or the declaration of some scumbag as an enemy combatant that gets said loser locked up at Gitmo if it means my me and you and our families can rest with a measure of peace in knowing that our flights won’t be brought down or office buildings won’t be blown up. The continuation by Obama of the Bush policies of anti-terrorism (despite his nonsensical campaign pledges four short years ago) have been the one thing he may have gotten right.

    • Common sense, if I were you, I would do my homework before calling anyone names. First, I confirmed this story with two major news sources as I realize exactly what type of agency Infowars is. I included them in my article- perhaps you should have read it more closely. Second, you are simply foolish to think it is a good idea for U.S. citizens to be arrested. For my part, I kinda like the part of the constitution that says I have the right to rise up against my government if that government ceases to serve the people. In that case, I kinda don’t like the idea that the same government can just call me an ‘enemy combatant’ and make me go away.

      As I am critical of a decision made by a Republican president, I’m not sure how that makes me a ‘right wing nut’, mister.

      When cowards like you give up your civil rights to be safe in your beds at night, you endanger the civil rights of everyone. I think you feel that way because based on your need for ‘extra security’, you would never rise up against your government and hence, would never need protection from its abuse. You and yours will just go like lambs to slaughter or even better, watch your neighbors fight for you and then watch as they are carried off in handcuffs. Just Peachy for you.

      I, for one, would NEVER give up my right to trial for any kind of promised security. I would rather keep a shotgun under my bed. You are not a ‘big person’ but a chicken shit person, Commonsense. You are exactly the kind of coward that Obama & his team of Progressives need to ensure the lessening of our rights- all they need to do is scream, “Boo!” and you will sign it away.

      • Okay, perhaps I deserved to be called names for referring to you in staunch terms. My apologies. But calling someone who typed a comment “a coward” and “a chicken shit” for simply being okay that criminals are arrested and drones patrol the skies at home and abroad seems a bit rash.

        But let me be a bit more clear here. You said that I am “simply foolish to think it is a good idea for U.S. citizens to be arrested.” I think I detailed my point fairly well. If you support letting the Jose Padilla’s roam the streets of America, then that’s your prerogative I guess. I prefer to put criminals behind bars or in the ground if need be.

        You also said you “like the part of the constitution that says I have the right to rise up against my government if that government ceases to serve the people.” I must respectfully take you to task there by telling you that the Constitution says no such thing. Sorry but you may have to disabuse yourself of that notion. You may be thinking of the Declaration of Independence. Damn public schools got you all confused.

        You then mentioned “when cowards like you give up your civil rights to be safe in your beds at night.” Just a small point but you are probably thinking of civil liberties, not civil rights. Google the difference. No biggie.

        Finally, I found the entire diatribe on me not rising up against the government just strange.

        Anyway, I’m sure you’re a nice person. Cheerio!

      • Nick picking, nit picking. Would it have made you feel better if I had said, “Declaration of Independence upon which Natural Law was held as the primary principle upon which we revolted against England and upon which the Contitution is based?” A lot of words, seems to me. Especially for the comment section. But there you are:

        “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

        When they said, ‘dissolve’, they didn’t mean via voting….

        You didn’t just say that you wanted criminals in the ground or behind bars. ALL of us want that. You wanted to give up your civil RIGHTS- specifically, your RIGHT to a trial of your peers- just so you could feel ‘safer’. Further, you imply that the need to convict these people ‘quickly’ outweighs LIBERTIES that Americans have fought & died to guarantee. At the very minimum, this implies a severe lack of judgment on your part. If your point about me being a ‘right wing nut’ was based on any kind of proof or logic, perhaps you wouldn’t have received such a candid assesment of your character.

      • Short Little Rebel said: “You wanted to give up your civil RIGHTS- specifically, your RIGHT to a trial of your peers- just so you could feel ‘safer’. Further, you imply that the need to convict these people ‘quickly’ outweighs LIBERTIES that Americans have fought & died to guarantee. At the very minimum, this implies a severe lack of judgment on your part.”

        Could you please just pull out the quote I had in my previous two comments that said I wanted to give up my right to a trial just to feel safer? And while you’re at it, highlight where I implied that there is a need to convict quickly.”

        The only thing you’ve really done here is to put words into my mouth and highlight the fact that I am a coward or a chicken shit despite my two tours in Iraq. I guess while I should apologize again for calling you a nut you should be more careful about judging me. I took an interest in the post because of the joint operations angle. I engaged in many joint operation exercises (never with Russia). But when you talk of overthrowing a government or dealing with enemy combatants (domestic or foreign), I am pretty sure that I have had a bit more experience in that field than you. Until you’ve heard the thud of a bullet hitting a body please spare me the lectures and discussion of disolving political ties. They’re just words on a screen. Good day.

      • Commonsense, please don’t use your tour in Iraq inappropriately just because you are losing an argument. Hearing a thud in a body doesn’t give you any ‘experience’, credibility or logic concerning politics. In addition, it doesn’t give you ONE OUNCE of ‘experience’ more than me concerning enemy combatants- a DOMESTIC issue. Same for ‘overthrowing a government (which I never advocated- but used as an example). We are equal in this matter.

        While never serving in combat, I did serve three years in the Army (West Point cadet), was an expert marksman with the M-16 (the best in my company, mind you). I’m great with handguns & the bow as well. During war games for three summers, I was one of the last ones killed because I am sneaky & aggressive. My father was career Army and we moved around the world. My brother AND my sister are also long term Army veterans. I have traveled the world for 11 years as a management consultant and have seen humanity at work. I have been attacked by men and have had to fend them off, with many injuries to myself. And I was raped while in the military. So please don’t pull your combat experience, ok? It is as irrelavent to the discussion as my ‘experience’.

        You are wrong to give up your rights. Soldier or no. The progressives love your type. Now just admit you were wrong or just be quiet. It would be better for you.

      • Commonsense,

        “Personally, I am willing to endure constitutionally protected but “slippery slope” phone tapping if I call Europe or drones that survey the borders or cities or the declaration of some scumbag as an enemy combatant that gets said loser locked up at Gitmo if it means my me and you and our families can rest with a measure of peace in knowing that our flights won’t be brought down or office buildings won’t be blown up. The continuation by Obama of the Bush policies of anti-terrorism (despite his nonsensical campaign pledges four short years ago) have been the one thing he may have gotten right.”

        These are your words. To me, these are words of convenience and yes, of cowardliness. Sorry. If you didn’t mean them, then good. Let me/us know. You supported the idea of locking up U.S. citizens without a fair trial as is guaranteed by the Constitution. Hence, you imply that you would be willing to give up YOUR right to a free trial.

        As for the ‘quickness’ I refer to, I suppose that is the only thing I could think of that would make you want to give up your civil rights in exchange for getting people like Jose Padilla into Gitmo. Either that, or you didn’t think there was enough evidence to put the guy in jail. If not for the length of a trial or the lack of evidence for a trial, why would you protest giving this American citizen his day in court? My assumption is that you would NEVER want to put an American citizen in jail without evidence, Commonsense (at least, I hope!) That leaves the only other option: you don’t agree with the time consuming, tedious trial. Hence, my statement about ‘quick’ trials.

        As for revolting against the governement, I never advocated that. I used it as an example of why it is important to uphold the law & the constitution. The Natural Law therein protects us from government tyranny.

        While you technically apologized for the name calling, you then went on your high horse attemting to correct my word choices with an overall patronizing air. Don’t expect alot of warmth from people if this is how you generally apologize.

      • @ Commonsense – We certainly appreciate your service to our country. However, I could never agree with your rationale that any “slippery slope” practices would be okay. Once Pandora’s box is open, you can never close it. Look at all the illegal things they do without our knowledge. You think giving them some permissions will satisfy them? Give them an inch, and……… I want to see any SOB who tries to do harm to our citizens, on or off our soil, punished in the worst way possible. Personally, I would want 10 minutes alone with them to show them just how most of us feel. However, if that SOB is an American, he needs to be treated in accordance with the Constitution – not some Executive Order thought up by someone whose need for power and glory rules his decision-making. Our system is far from perfect. However, having lived in many countries around the world, there is probably no other country I would want to be tried in more than the USA. Rich people can buy justice in other countries, and sometimes here, but overall we have a fair system compared to other nations. Innocent people are found guilty all the time. Do you think a terrorist has any chance in hell of going free?

  3. I read the Fox News article, and I don’t see the problem with this. Russia is no longer our enemy, and we should be training with other like-minded countries so everyone is on the same page when it comes to taking down the terrorists. I live near an Air Force base where they train pilots from all over the world on how to fly the F-16 Fighting Falcon. I’m sure there are many other troops from different countries who train on US soil every day, and our troops are trained by their counterparts overseas, also.

    I agree with the caution about Alex Jones. I tried to listen to one of his radio shows a while back and he was doing his best to take a rather bland topic and blow it up into some kind of controversial conspiracy theory. My own theory is that Alex Jones is, as we used to say in the military, crazier than a shithouse rat.

    • Look, I put more than one source for the article (Associated Press and Fox), Hal. Those are solid as rock. My article is a heads up. I don’t like the look & feel of this. That is all. Russia may not be our enemy but it is a far cry from a friend. When I see Russia starting to actually support the United States in the U.N. and on foreign policy decisions (like Iran, Iraq, China, N. Korea, etc), I will feel a whole lot better. Our relationship with them is iffy at best. My real problem, however, is my distrust of Obama. He is a proclaimed Progressive and openly advocates the subjegation of U.S. sovereignty to the United Nations and the New World Order. If you don’t believe this, please read his nation security strategy document.

      • Russia doesn’t cooperate with everyone at the head of state level, true. The cooperation we need is what’s being discussed here, however. Basically it’s the Dallas PD cooperating with the Fort Worth PD to go after gang members who are preying on both cities. We don’t care if the mayors of both cities are feuding, all we care about is that the cops are working together to take down the bad guys. Also, check that “rock solid” AP link again. I wouldn’t trust the AP with a story any more than I would PMSNBC or See BS.

        It’s too bad when we can’t trust our own President any more than we can trust Vladimir Putin, but it has come down to that in this country. January 20, 2013 can’t come fast enough for me.

      • Hal, I agree. It IS too bad when we can’t trust our president. I can say with 100% candor that I trust Obama LESS than I trust Putin.

      • Obama wants to be king, not president. And the scary part is that he truly believes he knows what is best for us, and without him to lead us we will fall apart. I want to gag every time I hear his BS (i.e. every time he opens his mouth). Obama needs to be voted out, and politicians need to remember that YOU ARE ELECTED TO SERVE US. It might take a while, but the people will wake up and realize that the dysfunctional government is a direct result of what happens when the people don’t pay attention.

  4. We are the most heavily armed civilians in any country on this planet. Who will be first when the screws tighten? What do you think they are training for? This is not the first time it has been reported that foreign troops have trained on our soil. There have been other UN flagged joint exercises held in recent years. By itself, it may seem harmless, but when you combine it with all the executive orders Bush and Obama have signed, the warning bells start ringing.

    Believe what you will, and hopefully one day you will not wake up and find that being an American is a curse, not a blessing. Certain things our “Govenment of the People” have done really bother me, such as the gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina. Why would anyone confiscate weapons from legal gun owners when thugs are roaming the streets preying on defenseless citizens? There is no doubt that all these executive orders are being signed to neuter any resistance, and make it legal for the military to conduct operations on American soil, against American citizens. American citizens can be detained by the military? Create an atmosphere of fear and paranoia, and make the public believe that the government is there to save you, and it will only cost you a few freedoms. The plan has been in place for a long time. The final pieces of the puzzle are being set. When it starts, gun owners and veterans will be the first targets.

    The comment made earlier here by Commonsense “Personally, I am willing to endure constitutionally protected but “slippery slope……..” Really? Until it happens to you? Or one of your family? Or even a friend? Once it starts, where does it stop?

    When have you ever know of any governing body to say “Hey, we have enough power and control, let’s stop here”. They don’t stop. Absolute power corrupts absolutely has never been more true. Many, if not most of the people in power are egomaniacal and full of conceit (especially Obama). Look at the bigger picture and it is clear that most of the American population is just a bunch of sheep. The majority of us are too busy trying to survive, never mind keep up with all the crap spewing from the American Aristocracy in Washington, DC. They own us. They rule. Therefore, we are nothing more than slaves.

    I am not sure who wrote this, but they said it best “I would rather live free with some peril, than live as the protected slave of government”

  5. Sorry for the rant. I can’t stand politics in general, and in my mind, you are either a politician or you are not a politician. I don’t see the line between Democrat or Republican. All I see is a bunch of self-serving talking heads. I believe the ones that go to Washington with the intention of doing good are forced into drinking the Kool-Aid, otherwise they will be blackballed by the majority. Until the majority of Americans start caring about our country again, we will continue to lose our rights and freedoms as each day passes.

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