Marines Find Out Men And Women Are Different


A battlefield is NOT the factory floor.

Any girl who ever took gym class with boys knew it was coming:

Starting with the new year, all female Marines were supposed to be able to do at least three pullups on their annual physical fitness test and eight for a perfect score. The requirement was tested in 2013 on female recruits at Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, S.C., but only 45 percent of women met the minimum, Krebs said.

The Marines had hoped to institute the pullups on the belief that pullups require the muscular strength necessary to perform common military tasks such as scaling a wall, climbing up a rope or lifting and carrying heavy munitions.…

Because the change is being put off, women will be able to choose which test of upper-body strength they will be graded on in their annual physical fitness test. Their choices:

—Pullups, with three the minimum. Three is also the minimum for male Marines, but they need 20 for a perfect rating.
—A flexed-arm hang. The minimum is for 15 seconds; women get a perfect score if they last for 70 seconds. Men don’t do the hang in their test.

Well, hey, at least the gentlemen are giving the girls a choice.  But, wait, there’s more:

Officials said training for pullups can change a person’s strength, while training for the flex-arm hang does little to adapt muscular strength needed for military tasks

The delay on the standard could be another wrinkle in the plan to begin allowing women to serve in jobs previously closed to them such as infantry, armor and artillery units.

Townhall source

Nah.  You don’t say.  The girls can’t keep up with the guys – who were built for the sorts of rigors required in combat roles – and this is a “wrinkle.”  (Cuing Secretary of State Botox Man)  Guys aren’t that good at pilates, either, even though the exercises were developed as a system to get injured soldiers back into shape to return to the battlefield.

What, does the military high brass not pay attention to the wide wide world of sports where men and women ONLY compete together in figure skating, and even then, the men are doing the heavy lifting.

We are NOT the same, and anyone who is trying to delude themselves into believing that we are needs a severe reality check.  Yes, there are some very strong and athletic women out there who can meet the Marines requirements for fitness, but more of them can’t.  Furthermore getting the girls to commit to training for it can prove to be a problem:

Officials felt there wasn’t a medical risk to putting the new standard into effect as planned across the service, but that the risk of losing recruits and hurting retention of women already in the service was unacceptably high, [Capt. Maureen Krebs, a Marine spokeswoman] said. (emphasis CL’s)

So, we’re putting keeping the girls in the club ahead of military readiness?


Yet another dingbat idea put forth by the delusional.  For more reasons on why this is an exceptionally BAD idea, this blogger offered detailed reasoning last year when this issue surfaced.  

God help us, because female whiny bravado is going to get us into major trouble.

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4 replies

  1. Just a contrast, but right now, only males can join and become RMC’s Royal Marine Commando’s in Britain. But women can join and become part of the Royal Marine Band. I believe there was/is a sort of pilot or beginning test, with 5 women, who are already in the British Army trying out for the rigors, both physical and mental for the RMC’s? I will have to check and see that status?

    • Btw, here’s the requirements for a Royal Navy Medical Assistant (Doc) “corpsman”, who wants to serve with the RMC’s! All men!

      Medical Assistants who volunteer for service with the Royal Marines must pass the All Arms Commando Course (9-weeks) held at the Commando Training Centre Royal Marines (CTCRM) in Lympstone, Devon.

      • And just a personal note, but when I was attached (as an RMC) to the American Marine 3rd Force Recon Co., back in the Nam (1968), of course all of their Corpsman were men and Navy, attached too with the Force Recon (as also all of their Corpsman with Marines). One saved my life! But we lost him later! Almost not a day goes by, especially as I get older, that I do not think of him! Yes Semper Fi to the American Marines!

      • Any former Marines out there who were at either Pu Bai (HQ for 3rd Force), or earlier at Camp Swab, Okinawa? Sorry just old memories!

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